Can I ask you a simple question ...w/o offending...

What is the Church?

What say the Prophet; Jeremiah 8:8 How can you say, We are wise, and we have the written law of YHWH[and are learned in its language and teachings]? Behold, the truth is, the lying pen of the scribes has made of the law a falsehood (a mere code of ceremonial observances)....Hmmmm this sounds familiar.

Cross-reference:

Mark 7:13 "Thus you are nullifying and making void and of no effect [the authority of] the Word of YHWH through your tradition, which you [in turn] hand on. And, many things of this kind you are doing".

This sounds of reproof from Yahshua.

 

Today the statistical reports from groups such as the Barna reports suggest a mass exodus from the institutional model of ChurchInstead involving themselves in some type of Home fellowship in the study of Torah (The Basics) and clear historical biblical understanding.

I have been asked my stand and here it is. Seventeen hundred years of infiltrated Paganism easily discerned from Encyclopedias, Hebrew writings, the Talmud and Biblical sources including the Aramic Pershetta, dating before Emperor Constantine... Who was a blatant worshiper of the Sun... He Controlled people by the sword and the Imperial Church of Rome [RCC]... Was a tool at his disposal...to name a few reasons.

Or was it the other way around??

Personally Why would I leave the paganism of the Church? Well for one I was called out twenty years ago however " Come out of Her MY people" rings a clear bell of warning even today..

Abraham heard the Masters Cry and Isaiah and Jerimiah cried it to the People Israel, as well the Revealing word through Yohannan /John in the writing Revalation states to as well Come out of the whordom Babylon has beguiled you with.

Why I ask would you go back to legalism, if I am free in Him?

First John/ Yochanan 2V27 is pretty clear... The Ruach HaKodosh is the teacher of all truths.

So hear is my answer;

Because the Biblical account of the real followers of Messiah is this:

We the true followers of the Biblical church based in Acts are a breaking bread, house to house fellowship in the Community that is among, between and amidst the People with His living word.

 

In simple terms we are to Mature in the things of YAH and then live amoung the people as Living Epistles.

 

Shalom Upon you home..."J&T"

This background was a painting on the side of a Building in Petaluma, California

 

 

A Little More for the Plate:::

 

The English word "church" (and the Scottish "kirk" or "kirke") is derived from a German word "kirche" that refers to an area (like a parish or county) or to a community where people reside.

Since such a community would have a common place of assembly for a variety of community purposes (e.g., political, secular, entertainment, or religious), it is understandable how this came to refer to both the building and the community that assembles in it.

The Greek word that is usually translated as "church" is "ecclesia", meaning "called out". It refers to the group of people that are "called" out of their homes or other normal everyday activities to assemble themselves together for some purpose.

Thus, it may also refer to a variety of assembled bodies, including a political council. The political appointees we refer to in English as "Assemblymen" would constitute such a body that in Greek might be called an "ecclesia". It was used in first-century Jewish Greek to refer to the assembly of believers (i.e., "called ones" or "chosen ones" "the Elect") and was synonymous with another Greek word we can recognize: "sunagoga" (or "synagoga"), from which we get out English word "synagogue".

Both of these words convey the idea of an assembly, which is the concept that translated the Hebrew word "knesset". Curiously, "knesset" has a root meaning that can be translated as "entering in", which is the converse and culmination or purpose of being "called out".

But we can see how both concepts of "called out" and "entering in" would apply to an "assembly" or "community" of El's "chosen ones" (i.e., Jews). Historically, of course, the Church (i.e., organized Christianity) has excluded Jews (unless it could convert them to its own non-ISrealite or anti-ISrealite brand of religion). Hence, the "ecclesia" has been separated from the "synagoga".

But both groups still use the English word "congregation", which means a gathering together, and this word translates into Hebrew as "kehilah" from the root word "kahal" (i.e., a "gathering" or an assembled body). Now, after doing a more extensive research, I found some new information that may help in your understanding.

I will also show different spelling in the same words, it all depends on who translated the particular word. Examine the information below. Dictionaries usually give the meaning for this word as a "Christian building" or "a group of Christians."

The word used in most English versions is from the Greek ekklesia which means "a calling-out, a meeting, or a gathering." This is the equivalent to the Hebrew word qahal, which means an "assembly or a congregation." Again, Christianity adopted exclusivity. The word "church" in Greek is actually kuriakon or kyriakon, which is a building or "the house of "Kurios," or "Lord." Kurios is the Greek form of the Latin Dominus/Domina (f)." This word was used synonymously for the god Jupiter. In the Sanskrit, Domina was the Great Mother Goddess, Kybele, who was also known as the "sensual goddess" -- (Byblos/Aphrodite/Venus/Juno/Isis/Diana/Roma,etc.). The origin of the word "church" is also attributed to the Anglo-Saxon root word Circe (pronounced and written as "Kirke"), who was a Greek goddess, daughter of Helios, the sun diety.

She was reputed to be the goddess of degrading love, comparable to the Babylonian Ishtar, who was also known for her sorcery and herbal knowledge. From Circe comes the nimbus or "circle of light" (aka "halo"). It is "halo" that gives the "hallowed" connotation. Kurke/Curche was the Slavic spirit of corn to whom a rooster was sacrificed at the harvest festival.

He was also associated with the grain weevil and had to be appeased, although he could turn into a protective and kindly deity. It would be to your advantage to replace the word "CHURCH" in the Brit Chadishah, or called New Covenant (SO CALLED NT) with the proper Hebrew translation, to get the best possible understanding.